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Wearing multiple pieces of layered armor

Post by Saellyn » Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:48 pm

This is going to come to a head and I'm starting to get sick of it. It's one thing to layer a cloak over a gambeson or something, but when you layer two pieces of armor meant to be fitted to your frame, you're taking it too far. Wearing two gambesons is -absolutely- stupid. Wearing a gambeson under a hauberk is -absolutely- stupid. You're twinking, and there's no denying it. It has nearly no coded benefit for you to even do it, so just stop.

For the record, gambeson:

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Re: Wearing multiple pieces of layered armor

Post by krelm » Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:56 pm

There's actually 0 coded benefit, because the engine only takes the highest AC of primary armor and applies that, then applies something like half the value of secondary armor.

Since gambesons are all primary, you're only making yourself look like an idiot.
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Re: Wearing multiple pieces of layered armor

Post by Saellyn » Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:41 pm

You're basically damaging two pieces of equipment -thinking- that you're getting two ACs worth of primary armor, then? Good to know. Thanks.


Stop wearing double armors you guys, it's -not- making you look smart, it makes you look stupid. If I see it in game anymore I'm reporting it via petition and possibly support ticket WITH your sdesc, char name (if I know it) and what armor you're wearing.

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Re: Wearing multiple pieces of layered armor

Post by Matt » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:04 pm

I like to RP wearing a front cloak cause it's cold. Middle Earth snuggie style.

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Re: Wearing multiple pieces of layered armor

Post by Zargen » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:06 pm

I'm going to wear two gambesons and a hauberk. Just because Saellyn said not to.

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Re: Wearing multiple pieces of layered armor

Post by toofast » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:22 pm

Zargen wrote:I'm going to wear two gambesons and a hauberk. Just because Saellyn said not to.
same

a gambeson and two hauberks and a snuggie cloak

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Re: Wearing multiple pieces of layered armor

Post by Saellyn » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:37 pm

i'm killing all of you

but seriously, it's -annoying- to see a bunch of primary armor stuck on somebodies body. it just looks ugly.

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Re: Wearing multiple pieces of layered armor

Post by toofast » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:38 pm

I think we should lynch characters who conceal half of their gear or wear hoods in taverns before characters who wear two gambeson. They're on the list, tho.

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Re: Wearing multiple pieces of layered armor

Post by Matt » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:43 pm

Saellyn wrote:i'm killing all of you

but seriously, it's -annoying- to see a bunch of primary armor stuck on somebodies body. it just looks ugly.
A gnarly-looking orc steps in, or more waddles in, with his arms and legs stiff from the three layers of armor he's wearing. He looks pretty safe.

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Re: Wearing multiple pieces of layered armor

Post by Throttle » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:50 pm

It used to be that you couldn't wear something that provides full cover in a location that already gets full cover from another item.
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Re: Wearing multiple pieces of layered armor

Post by krelm » Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:00 am

It seems those restrictions weren't kept when PRPI's other-wearlock code was put in. 'Over torso' (or whatever it is) doesn't check for prim_locs worn on 'torso' or 'about.'
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Re: Wearing multiple pieces of layered armor

Post by Holmes » Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:49 am

krelm wrote:It seems those restrictions weren't kept when PRPI's other-wearlock code was put in. 'Over torso' (or whatever it is) doesn't check for prim_locs worn on 'torso' or 'about.'
This is still working as intended on Parallel, so it seems to have been something that was changed here:

You wear a spotty gray, fist marked flak-vest about your body.

<#****** / ^^^^^^ / ||||||> A yellowy white, bat wings marked flak-vest appears.

<#****** / ^^^^^^ / ||||||> You get a yellowy white, bat wings marked flak-vest.

<#****** / ^^^^^^ / ||||||> You cannot wear a yellowy white, bat wings marked flak-vest, as a spotty
gray, fist marked flak-vest already covers that spot.

If two things both cover the same wearloc, it shouldn't be possible to wear two. It's possible the armor that people are doing this with only has partial coverage.

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Re: Wearing multiple pieces of layered armor

Post by Icarus » Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:52 am

As just a general sort of warning, this thread is running at snark level 11. Tone it down.

So, formal warning there.
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Re: Wearing multiple pieces of layered armor

Post by MrDvAnt » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:04 am

Just as a note, gambesons were made to wear under other armor, as padding.

I know what you mean though. I live in Texas and every time I see a hipster wearing a long sleeved shirt under their buttoned up flannels, I want to slap them.

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Re: Wearing multiple pieces of layered armor

Post by LuckyV » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:15 am

rofl. +1 MrDvAnt

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Re: Wearing multiple pieces of layered armor

Post by hobbitboots » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:17 am

I think tunics should be filling that role (padding under armor), not gambesons.

Edit: A little wikipedia research shows gambesons can go both way. Sorry, carry on!

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Re: Wearing multiple pieces of layered armor

Post by Hazgarn » Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:39 am

A padded gambeson would make sense under mail or metal armor (as an arming coat). The point of doing so was to make sure your armor didn't cause you just as much damage as the weapons it was protecting you from. But leather armor wouldn't have the same problem as metal, so wearing padding underneath is just...silly.

Anyone caught wearing extra padding under their leathers is a silly and should be shamed ICly for being a pansy.
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Re: Wearing multiple pieces of layered armor

Post by EltanimRas » Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:45 am

Hazgarn wrote:Anyone caught wearing extra padding under their leathers is a silly and should be shamed ICly for being a pansy.
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Re: Wearing multiple pieces of layered armor

Post by krelm » Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:11 pm

Holmes wrote:This is still working as intended on Parallel, so it seems to have been something that was changed here:
Man, the RPI+ engine will never cease to be amusing.
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