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Smells, Washing, and You

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:12 pm
by Frigga
For humans at least - you'll soon find soap for sale. :D

This soap is usable with the general craft lather lye-soap

Said craft contains secret magics which will indeed, remove any lingering smells clinging to your PC.

Now that the ability to remove said smells is live and well, expect indeed to find more smells (probably mostly unpleasant ) emerging from various activities and sources.

Enjoy (or something like that :lol: )

Re: Smells, Washing, and You

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:43 pm
by Hazgarn
Hopefully there are also plans to make this craftable soonish. Otherwise I foresee this getting very, very ugly...

Re: Smells, Washing, and You

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:49 pm
by Snapdragon
I can just the see the Lakeside Newscast about how riots in the streets have broken out when the vendor ran out of rose scented soap. People were screaming. Looters started terrorizing shop keeps and civilization fell to the wayside. All because the ran out of soap.


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Off in the distance, the orcs are watching the events and laughing to themselves 'Idiots..."

Re: Smells, Washing, and You

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:51 am
by Nailah
Hazgarn wrote:Hopefully there are also plans to make this craftable soonish. Otherwise I foresee this getting very, very ugly...
Gaining lard and fats for tallow via butchery will help with this, but I am torn under where to actually put it.

Re: Smells, Washing, and You

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:08 am
by Jeshin
medicine

Re: Smells, Washing, and You

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:31 am
by EltanimRas
Jeshin wrote:medicine
Pro: Medicine is currently short of crafts, and it's the closest thing we have to the old apothecary craftset.

Con: Soap-making is a normal, if arduous, activity for low-tech rural households, and the requisite knowledge has very little correlation with medical skill. I'd almost rather see it under farming.

Re: Smells, Washing, and You

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:18 pm
by Nailah
EltanimRas wrote:
Jeshin wrote:medicine
Pro: Medicine is currently short of crafts, and it's the closest thing we have to the old apothecary craftset.

Con: Soap-making is a normal, if arduous, activity for low-tech rural households, and the requisite knowledge has very little correlation with medical skill. I'd almost rather see it under farming.
Yeah, I think farming is the way to go with this one. Bear fat is going to be in soon, which opens up a good base for medicinal salves.

Re: Smells, Washing, and You

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:20 pm
by Droll
Bear fat...is boar fat a thing? I mean...lard has been used for a long time. I just don't really butcher stuff so I don't know if that is produced by dissecting the piggies.

Re: Smells, Washing, and You

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:29 pm
by Nailah
Chunks of raw boar fat will be in soon too, yes. They will be rendered into lard or tallow for candles, etc.

Re: Smells, Washing, and You

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:53 pm
by MrT2G
I am just curious. How are smells going to be implemented in with the stealth code?

I'd love to think that people would roleplay it out if they 'smelled' something, but the abundance of search spamming/quick attacking already leads me to believe otherwise.

Re: Smells, Washing, and You

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:05 pm
by Hazgarn
MrT2G wrote:I am just curious. How are smells going to be implemented in with the stealth code?

I'd love to think that people would roleplay it out if they 'smelled' something, but the abundance of search spamming/quick attacking already leads me to believe otherwise.
I think that, right now "sniff" allows you to detect smells present in the room. This may extend to smells being carried by characters in that room, but I'm not sure.

Re: Smells, Washing, and You

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:26 am
by Ava
Farming for soap seems so weird to me! Maybe general with a long timer or something? Or herbalism, if it's something an apothecary type might make.

Re: Smells, Washing, and You

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:30 am
by Jeshin
If it is supposed to be such a general craft, just make it a general craft?

Re: Smells, Washing, and You

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:20 am
by EltanimRas
Jeshin wrote:If it is supposed to be such a general craft, just make it a general craft?
That might work alright for Alpha, where most PCs come from relatively rural backgrounds, but seems likely to feel odd once we make the move to Laketown.
Ava wrote:Farming for soap seems so weird to me! Maybe general with a long timer or something? Or herbalism, if it's something an apothecary type might make.
Herbalism went poof with SoI2, I think, and it was a gathering skill anyway. It also used to have forage as a prerequisite, which is every bit as weird a requirement for soap-making as first aid (medicine's prereq). Apothecary, also gone, was, if I recall correctly, the old medicine/soap/perfume craftset.

I'd be perfectly happy to see these skills come back, myself, but they'd make a fully-rounded healer-herbalist-apothecary PC extremely expensive on skill picks. Pity the poor soul who wants a literate one!

In my fantasy dream-world, we have 'minor skills' like chandlery (soap + candles) that only count as half a skill pick in chargen.

Re: Smells, Washing, and You

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:45 pm
by soiacc
Why not put soapmaking with cooking. Maybe have a grey lump of lye soap in the general section.

Re: Smells, Washing, and You

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:11 pm
by Saellyn
When are orcs going to be able to make boar-piss and boar-poop soap so we can smell good too D:?

Re: Smells, Washing, and You

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:09 pm
by BleedingEdge
My granny used to make her own lye soap using leftover grease from her fried beef, rabbit and chickens (which she raised too) and mixed in the little leftover storebought soaps that were almost too small to hold. What I'm saying is that as a ranchers wife they could make just about anything that was needed about the place. Its not that difficult to make, you just have to know how, and it should probably go under the General crafting like Lather Lye-Soap.

If I have one request, it would be to allow the crafter to determine how strong the lye mixture will be concentrated. There are times you'll want a scented bath soap that you can soak in, yes I know frontier towns didn't have 'that' much free time, but still there are times you want to soak in that number 5 bucket/tub, and then there are times you want it mixed 'eat your hands off' strong for those times your skinning those greasy boar hogs and nothing else will do. Of course, you'd want to allow the crafter to add some sort of coloring or scenting to differentiate between the strengths. And like many terrified parents will know, keep household cleaners away from the children. It will kill them.

Ah granny's gray blue lye soap with little bits of storebought soaps mixed in. Sigh. It would make your hands rosy red in twenty seconds or less as it ate the outer layers of dead skin right off. Good times. I don't think I've seen that little scrub brush like hers since either. It had bristles like those hand held scrub brushes you clean a floor or bathtub with with a loop you could slip an index finger and little finger into for more control. It was a tiny thing with only three or four rows of bristles and probably eight or ten bristles long, but it was perfect for scrubbing stuff off the knuckles and between the fingers. Which was handy when it was berry/grape picking season. As a starving kid, I mean growing, I swear more berries went in my stomach than my bucket. Which was all well and good until you dumped the berries in the sink full of water at the end of the day and you got to see all the crawlies making a swim for it and then thinking about all that you must have eaten. A mixture of blech! and yum!