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Riveted Coifs

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:06 pm
by Droll
These need to go the way of the old coifs and get replaced by a new type of helm. They have no eye protection.

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It is a pitted-bog-iron, riveted, mail coif.

It will cover the head, and partially cover the neck.


In the meantime, I recommend that no one give their grunts shiny new coifs.

Re: Riveted Coifs

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:18 pm
by Brian
This is a coif.

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As you can see, not really covering the eyes. The helmets that have partial eye coverage are usually described as having a nose guard, cheek guards, something that extends to the face.

Re: Riveted Coifs

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:38 pm
by Droll
I never would have guessed what a coif is. I feel enlightened.

This is the rough set of mail:
Chausses, Gauntlets, Hauberk, Helm.

This is riveted:
Chausses, Gauntlets, Hauberk, Coif.

We used to have rough coifs and spangehelms. Now all we have is the helm. They got taken out of the game, presumably because of the staggeringly high amount of players that needed eye patches/died.

Re: Riveted Coifs

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:40 pm
by radioactivejesus
Brian wrote:This is a coif.

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As you can see, not really covering the eyes. The helmets that have partial eye coverage are usually described as having a nose guard, cheek guards, something that extends to the face.
What Droll is probably trying to say, is that due to a lack of eye protection, the riveted coifs are very risky choices and not better than spangenhelms, which they should be a direct improvement over.

Re: Riveted Coifs

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:22 pm
by Real
I've been two-shotted by a boar from six stars because of lack of eye protection. Took a horrific and then a mod. Anything that doesn't cover the eyes is unreliable and not worth buying/crafting, 90% of the time you're fine and then when it counts you take a grievous from a common mob, or a terrible from a tough one and die/spend days in triage.

Re: Riveted Coifs

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:47 am
by Telchar
A couple of new helms will be in soon - these coifs were not exactly meant to be improvement over the spangenhelm - a helm is a helm, coif is a coif !!

Meanwhile - the good old spangenhelm seems to be serving well, isn't it?

Re: Riveted Coifs

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:45 am
by Droll
Telchar wrote:A couple of new helms will be in soon - these coifs were not exactly meant to be improvement over the spangenhelm - a helm is a helm, coif is a coif !!

Meanwhile - the good old spangenhelm seems to be serving well, isn't it?

Ok cool. That covers all our worries. You're my hero.

Re: Riveted Coifs

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:21 am
by radioactivejesus
Telchar wrote:A couple of new helms will be in soon - these coifs were not exactly meant to be improvement over the spangenhelm - a helm is a helm, coif is a coif !!

Meanwhile - the good old spangenhelm seems to be serving well, isn't it?
awesome news. Looking forwards to the new helms.
Have you ever considered adding layering for the riveted coifs, so that they could be made wearable underneath a helmet? This was a very common practice for soldiers back in the middle ages, and if I understand the code right, layering armour grants a flat +1 AC, right? (of course, this isn't overly necessary. Just throwing out ideas)
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Re: Riveted Coifs

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:15 am
by Ceredir
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ETA: We were discussing layering helmets the other day, but it kinda fell under the table. I'll bring it up again, as I personally do like the idea.