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Was the Arkenstone a Silmaril?

Postby Forceknight » Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:40 am

Sorry if this has been posted already, I did a quick search and didn't see anything. It's an interesting theory:

http://askmiddlearth.tumblr.com/post/41497309376/was-the-arkenstone-a-silmaril
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Re: Was the Arkenstone a Silmaril?

Postby Taurgalas » Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:45 am

The Arkenstone was a gem found inside Erebor by the dwarves who resided there. The Heart of the Mountain, by name. The Dwarves of Erebor were the ones who worked it into an artifact of magnificence. "It was like a globe with a thousand faces; it shone like silver in the firelight, like water in the sun, like snow under the stars, like rain upon the Moon!" - the Hobbit


The Silmarils - these were made by Feanor - fully worked already - in Valinor. They were brought to Middle-Earth, of course, but one was recovered from Morgoth by Beren and Luthuien and given to Earendil when he departed for Aman. Later, the other two were recovered from Morgoth, at which point they were stolen by two of Feanor's sons from the camp of the Valar - one of whom flung himself into a fiery chasm with the stone, the other was flung into the sea by Maglor. That leaves only one, which is worn upon Earendil's brow - the morning and evening star. Clearly, no relation to the Arkenstone.

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The seven stones of the Palantiri, on the other hand, were from Numenor and rescued from its destruction by Elendil and his sons. They were great, crystalline globes, designed and imbued such that they could witness events and communicate across long distances. Frequently referred to as the Stones of Seeing, there were seven of those:

The Elendil Stone - held in the Tower Hills west of the Shire, taken back to Aman at the end of the 3rd age.

The Stone of Amun Sul - housed in the tower of Amun Sul in the north kingdom, rescued and taken to Fornost, then lost after Fornost fell and King Arvedui's ship sank into the Icebay of Forochel.

The Stone of Annuminas - Moved with the kings to Fornost, then lost after Fornost fell and King Arvedui's ship sank into the Icebay of Forochel.

The Master Stone - Held in the Dome of Stars but lost in the Anduin when Osgiliath fell.

Anor Stone - Retained by the Steward into the Fourth Age.

Ithil Stone - Held in Minas Ithil, then used by Sauron. Fate unknown but presumably destroyed in the fall of Barad-dur

Orthanc Stone - Held in Orthanc, later came to Aragorn, the only functional palantir left after the end of the 3rd age.

So as you can tell, based on the following of the palantiri, it's unlikely that the Arkenstone was one. It was another amazing artifact of which Middle-Earth was known for having.
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Re: Was the Arkenstone a Silmaril?

Postby Olthadir » Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:19 am

Once you immerse yourself in the lore, it really is silly to think the Arkenstone is a Silmaril.
No one had the skill of Feanor. It explicitly states that in the Silmarillion.

Also, we know what happened to each Silmaril, as Taurgalas mentions.

Even if the Silmaril that was tossed into the fiery chasm, that still isn't the Arkenstone, because the Chasm opened somewhere in Belariand, and nowhere near the Lonely Mountain. The Silmaril, if it somehow survived, couldn't have moved to the Lonely Mountain.
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