Bring in your own ideas and lets hear what there is to say on the topic. It has been brought up that there isn't much documentation, true so let's create something believable and enjoyable!

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Icarus wrote:I'm going to kill the next character I see doing stuff like that. I'm not joking.
Haiku fail.radioactivejesus wrote:here is the whip
the goblins protest warfare
lash lord gives no fucks
syllable counter said 5, 7, 5Matt wrote:Haiku fail.radioactivejesus wrote:here is the whip
the goblins protest warfare
lash lord gives no fucks
you did four not fiveradioactivejesus wrote:syllable counter said 5, 7, 5Matt wrote:Haiku fail.radioactivejesus wrote:here is the whip
the goblins protest warfare
lash lord gives no fucks
I don't understand this weaboo shit
It's pronounced Whip-puh.tehkory wrote:you did four not fiveradioactivejesus wrote:here is the whip
the goblins protest warfare
lash lord gives no fucks
you fail to produce haiku
unlike this success
I understand that the old days can be alluring, but I'd hesitate to have orcs even have funerals. Caring that someone died and wanting to send their spirit on is assuming a nobility of spirit and personality. I don't think they'd care that one of their own had fallen. Maybe if a strong leader died, they'd be dismayed and a bit scared of their enemy, but they wouldn't feel the need to have a funeral to help them overcome the loss of a loved one like we do.Oblivion wrote:Only examples I can give are from past experiences... But early early Gothakra used to have funerals for fallen uruks who died in combat. The bodies would be ritually dismembered to 'make it easy' for that uruk 'spirit' to 'return to the mountain' ... Which was where the Gothakra tribes came from and the general 'belief' in the tribe was that strong warriors would get reborn and have another chance to kill many soft-skins.
This would be accompanied by lots of drinking, general bragging about personal skills, and of course the 'spatting' contests. The spatting is good though, even if it comes to someone drawing a weapon, it just has to be tempered by everyone else around them mocking whoever draws first as the loser of the 'event', and not goading the fight to continue into actual loss of life. Biggest thing to these sorts of 'contests' would be that the player has to understand that the orc wouldn't really hold a grudge for being baited into drawing a weapon and should concede the loss as if it were a physical spar. Honestly we beat the crap out of one another on a daily basis and don't get uptight when we lose a spar, why would it be any different when throwing words?
Then there was the ever favorite 'skins only' brawls that the entire tribe would get in to, with everyone taking much care to leave the unconscious alone or have them dragged away as the brawl goes on. These are kind of what led to the development of boot-skull, which is almost the same thing but with designated teams and a few loose rules such as the 'goals'.
There also used to be the fire-talks, which go along the lines of boasting about one's self in front of everyone else and generally trying to make yourself sound good. again that comes with the understanding that most times people listening wouldn't degrade to demeaning the story-teller for potential lies and flagrancy.
Whether or not orcs are capable of mourning their dead deeply the way humans do is a question I'll leave to players who have played orcs. I haven't yet. That said there are other potential motivations a culture might have for handling their dead with a bit of care.MrDvAnt wrote:I understand that the old days can be alluring, but I'd hesitate to have orcs even have funerals. Caring that someone died and wanting to send their spirit on is assuming a nobility of spirit and personality. I don't think they'd care that one of their own had fallen. Maybe if a strong leader died, they'd be dismayed and a bit scared of their enemy, but they wouldn't feel the need to have a funeral to help them overcome the loss of a loved one like we do.
This what I'm fumblingly trying to get at. The motivation behind the celebration. Having a funeral to mourn a fallen orc, not so orcy. Funeral out of superstition/dread, chance to challenge for the fallen's positions, etc are all good motivations.Hazgarn wrote:Whether or not orcs are capable of mourning their dead deeply the way humans do is a question I'll leave to players who have played orcs. I haven't yet. That said there are other potential motivations a culture might have for handling their dead with a bit of care.MrDvAnt wrote:I understand that the old days can be alluring, but I'd hesitate to have orcs even have funerals. Caring that someone died and wanting to send their spirit on is assuming a nobility of spirit and personality. I don't think they'd care that one of their own had fallen. Maybe if a strong leader died, they'd be dismayed and a bit scared of their enemy, but they wouldn't feel the need to have a funeral to help them overcome the loss of a loved one like we do.
Superstition and fear, for example, are both great motivators for rites surrounding death.
Perhaps some orcs believe that some kinds of death (such as through misfortune or accident) are "catching", and laying the body to rest with some attention can avert future hardship. Perhaps when a leader or other especially fearsome orc is laid to rest, it is done with a ceremony "honoring" the fallen, lest his shade come back and make the rest of his clan suffer for failing in their respect.
Then of course there's selfishness. A funeral could be an opportunity to challenge others for rights to the deceased orc's property. Or to improve one's own standing through boasts tied to their association with the departed.
But in general, from an OOC perspective, a funeral is an occasion where things are happening, and it's probably good to encourage those, regardless.
Onasaki wrote:I believe orcs are capable of honoring respected orcs who have died. Ancestors. And spirits.
This has always been a commonplace thing when it comes to Orcs, in general, from what I understand.
Religious reasons about the actual dead orc definitely. Beyond that who cares throw it in a ditch.krelm wrote:I always saw any ritual an orc performed on the dead having little-to-nothing to do with the dead orc, but instead being done to please some spirit or whatever. No orc is an atheist, after all.