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by bjg2k1us » Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:50 pm
by tehkory » Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:53 pm
Rishte wrote:Growth needs space. Always. To diminish is to go backwards when we want to go forward.
by MrT2G » Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:55 pm
cfelch wrote:Players aren't really in a position to do more then grind or socialize.
by cfelch » Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:57 pm
MrT2G wrote:cfelch wrote:Players aren't really in a position to do more then grind or socialize.
This is incredibly wrong from my experience.
by Frigga » Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:02 pm
You need Men of Shadow to bridge the gap between Evil and Men of Twilight.
by Songweaver » Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:20 pm
by Gobbo » Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:42 pm
by MrT2G » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:01 pm
Songweaver wrote:The majority of players currently playing seem to want this, in one degree or another. Consider that an even greater majority of players who are no longer playing might be drawn back to the game because of this.
by cfelch » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:06 pm
by Songweaver » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:18 pm
MrT2G wrote:Songweaver wrote:The majority of players currently playing seem to want this, in one degree or another. Consider that an even greater majority of players who are no longer playing might be drawn back to the game because of this.
According to your own poll, it is actually evenly split 13-13 at this moment.
With the single category with the most votes, being in favor of no consolidation.
by Nimrod » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:31 pm
Gobbo wrote:Frigga, 'you be the change' 90% of this is a staff issue. What have you been up to in the last..3 months? I thought you had a focus on crafts, whats up with farming after a year of beta?
Staff are volunteers and I have no problem with that you are not obligated to do anything, but you Frigga just come around from time to time and say something condescending and unhelpful. Do you do anything else?
by Nimrod » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:35 pm
Songweaver wrote:- This poll has generated more forum activity for SOI than it's seen in quite a long time. :p Even having this discussion seems to have (at least temporarily) boosted the active number of players in the game, somewhat.
by cfelch » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:36 pm
Nimrod wrote:Gobbo wrote:Frigga, 'you be the change' 90% of this is a staff issue. What have you been up to in the last..3 months? I thought you had a focus on crafts, whats up with farming after a year of beta?
Staff are volunteers and I have no problem with that you are not obligated to do anything, but you Frigga just come around from time to time and say something condescending and unhelpful. Do you do anything else?
Antagonistic posts do not help, Gobbo. Keep it respectful. It would make me feel a lot better if you would consider just how hurtful these words were and what you might do to make it better.
by cfelch » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:50 pm
Nimrod wrote:Songweaver wrote:- This poll has generated more forum activity for SOI than it's seen in quite a long time. :p Even having this discussion seems to have (at least temporarily) boosted the active number of players in the game, somewhat.
That's hilarious.
by Rishte » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:58 pm
by cfelch » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:00 pm
Rishte wrote:This thread is about consolidating the game to one Sphere which Staff have said is not in the works. It is not going to happen in the foreseeable future.
Stay on the topic and stop insulting and trolling each other and staff or this thread will be locked immediately.
Be adults or be quiet. This is no way to act in front of new players.
by Real » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:08 pm
by cfelch » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:10 pm
by tehkory » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:28 pm
I would also argue, and have that playing the Man of Shadow has it's greatest strength when you have Men of Twilight to play off of, the greatest RP is in the difference. So I'd love to see a good Man of Shadow, indeed, I've seen that transformation with at least one PC and loved it. I'd also love to see more "Men of Twilight" shine on the more white side of the spectrum, just more variance for flavor.
The disagreement is whether to open an area for them separate
from or instead of the "main human sphere" or instead of the Orcs.
by bjg2k1us » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:51 pm
by Matt » Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:50 pm
by Rivean » Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:54 pm
cfelch wrote:Hippocracy aside, staff should have the same obligation to be adults as players.
by Nimrod » Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:25 am
tehkory wrote:I'll keep logging in, when I've the time. We'll all keep putting hours in to see that this is a better game, because it's cooperative and we work together to do that. Full-steam ahead, do what you want to do. The best MUD is one where Staff stick to their own vision of what they want religiously, and don't dilute it for people bitching. If you've got a vision, follow it. Stay the course.
tehkory wrote:But I guarantee you staying the course won't fix PvP, or a lack of inter-sphere roleplay. If your vision involves fixing that, you need to change your vision. If you don't care, then it's not a problem, and the players that want it can find another game, or make their own. But they'll also continue to point out that this is a problem(and it is), and that it's not been fixed(it hasn't), and that you're not going to see it fixed down the line as-is(you won't).
Orcs are fundamentally evil and debased to the core, both to Tolkien and all but the most liberal, uncommon interpretation of players and scholars/authors alike( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Ringbearer presents a rare exception to this opinion, but is of course utterly uncanon ). Farms, fish, republics and mayors, and ANYTHING that can be contained within Laketown won't change that. You need Men of Shadow to bridge the gap between Evil and Men of Twilight.
by Nimrod » Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:35 am
cfelch wrote:Nimrod wrote:Songweaver wrote:- This poll has generated more forum activity for SOI than it's seen in quite a long time. :p Even having this discussion seems to have (at least temporarily) boosted the active number of players in the game, somewhat.
That's hilarious.
Mocking people's opinions is not very respectful.
by cfelch » Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:37 am